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Post by Na'Onka on Oct 30, 2015 21:03:44 GMT
Hero or Villain? I'd put Alec into the hero category. He is likable and able to play the self-deprecating thing well. Both are common features for the hero archetype. I think a hero edit would also make sense from an editing standpoint so that his boot would be a big, shocking moment for the viewers. Coach as a hero for sure. Like you said at one point, you completed your survivor journey (for this series) and that's definitely a hero-esque thing. You were also loyal to fault within your alliance and, like I said in my previous answer, you had a positive/upbeat outlook and energy. Ian is definitely a villain in this particular season. Whenever two people fight, at least one of them is going to come off as villainous. Given that it was Ian’s parchment that instigated the argument between Ian and Sierra Dawn, which then instigated fights with others, I think it makes sense that it would be him. He’s outspoken and doesn’t let what other people think or say affect him which translates to a villain edit. Brandon would likely be edited as a less-than-enthusiastic player. He’d have to be given some negative screen time in an attempt to explain why he was being targeted in the early rounds and add some suspense to those tribals. Even though I don’t hold anything against Brandon, turning on your allies on at least two distinct occasions is more villainous than heroic and probably wouldn’t go over well with a casual audience. Plus, if he bothered to write confessionals, I’d imagine there’s a lot of sarcasm and funny comments about others, which are villainous qualities. Sierra Dawn would almost certainly be a hero. She was extremely popular among the actual players in the game, which would translate positively for her. She was also always loyal and I really can’t pick out a villainous aspect to her game. I thought she handled things quite maturely. I could definitely see her giving some bitchy confessionals throughout the game, but those would probably be explained or edited out for the sake of narrative. Joaquin’s edit I feel could toe the line between both categories. Sticking true to your friends is very heroic and he was a pretty nice dude overall. When I told him I wasn’t voting Coach at the final 11 his response to me was diplomatic. Turning on your allies only to not really turn on them could come across as maybe sneaky or manipulative though. From a story line standpoint to have a good season we would need more villains though so I think the edit may slant more towards that side. Idk as I’m writing this though I’m considering how being loyal in the end and his raw, emotional final tribal council speech may be more likely to come across positively. I guess maybe hero with villainous tendencies. Matty is kind of difficult for me. I can't think of anything at all villainous about him, but besides being likable, I'm having trouble picking out specific heroic qualities or moments. Going out fifth again would likely garner a sympathetic edit though and he would have at least left on a heroic, OTTP note. Plus he was loyal, so I think hero makes more sense. Fabio being a hero was definitely one of the easier classifications for me to pin down. He was friendly with everyone and seemed to be generally well liked. Personally he still came across as humble though. Being one of the last jury members very frequently earns an extremely positive edit, especially when that person overcame odds (i.e. –being down in numbers for a while) to make it there. Nay's Narrative Since my story is still playing out, it could probably take a couple different directions. In my early confessionals I made a couple different references to having doubt in myself and made the 'a bitch is just trying to make jury' spiel. If I were to win, they could definitely show those and then depict me as coming into my own and gaining confidence as the game progressed. In essence creating a sort of rags to riches story line. If I end up losing, they could still show those early confessionals and then create a more mixed story line for me where that indecisiveness is shown as contributing to my loss. I'm confident my story line would show personal growth, but the outcome here will determine the degree of it. My main archetype (hero or villain) would probably be determined in part by the FTC outcome too. I'm playing as Na'Onka so my confessional is definitely OTT and I tried to have fun with it. So if I end up third place there would be material combined with other things to make me a huge bitch villain. If I'm first or second, there's positive moments in there and in my interactions with others to create a balanced character. Since I see Steph and Sierra as potential heroes or villains based on their placement too, I'd hope first and second place get similar enough edits to keep it suspenseful.
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Post by Sierra Dawn on Oct 31, 2015 20:14:48 GMT
"Sierra Dawn would almost certainly be a hero. She was extremely popular among the actual players in the game, which would translate positively for her. She was also always loyal and I really can’t pick out a villainous aspect to her game. I thought she handled things quite maturely. I could definitely see her giving some bitchy confessionals throughout the game, but those would probably be explained or edited out for the sake of narrative."
This is first time I am here in someone eyes lmao
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
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Post by Steph on Nov 1, 2015 18:06:06 GMT
my narrative
ok well let's pretend like I wrote confessionals this game bc yeah
I would've come into the game with a largely positive edit, after my CPP5 streak the last several rounds of Luanne and my cute Kesha questions at FTC. so my first episode would probably just be a nice OTTP where I gushed about ~loving the game~ and being so happy to be back out here.
after that tho, I would've been extremely UTR up until my boot episode. I never went to tribal / was vulnerable at tribal, so I wouldn't need much of an edit to begin with, and I didn't really do much either. but once my boot ep came, I was once again very positive and friendly and etc etc. I made friends with people I hadn't talked to much up until that point (namely you, coach) and I tried to spearhead a vote for Cochran. however right before the vote I was told I was leaving and I remained positive about it, keeping up with my good guy funny chick persona.
once I returned to the game tho, my narrative took a huge turn. I went from scrappy heroic underdog to bitch. I didn't like anyone in the game and I wanted them all to burn. except Sierra dawn who I'd have lovely little confessionals about calling her an angel and shit.
the Ian fight however would have painted me positively again, because as we all are aware Ian is a piece of shit and I was a messiah in that scenario. I think this would've been portrayed as the will/Shirin fight where will was an intolerant hateful asshole and Shirin was pretty defenseless, except this time someone stuck up for the Shirin. so after my return to the game morn edit, I would rise back up to OTTP and from there on out I would be a nice positive force in the game, fighting the crusade against Ian's bullshit that kept somehow leaking into every tribal and challenge bc jurors can apparently comment anywhere in this game lol.
fast forward to the rocks round and my edit would be a lot smaller than the rest of the cast as a nice red herring to my elimination. I really did sit back that round and let it all fold out organically with the people I had been aligned against turning the vote to save me and risk themselves, sending Joaquin home after he sent out the cutest angel the round before.
get to final episode, and I think my narrative would be that of the background reinforcer. I was pivotal in both votes in this episode, but i wasn't shown badly because of it? it was more a lol both votes come down to me guess I gotta decide ~ type thing
hit up final tribal and I'm still fighting that crusade against Ian but now everyone is finally joining in and upping my edit to that OTTP edit where it's proven I was right all along xo
I think this is a fine edit for a runner up/2nd runner up. I think the largely situational edit I had would come to a nice culmination when my fight against Ian was justified by everyone including the host. I think a winner edit like this would be interesting but unlikely, but it would show that it's okay to forget the game to stand up for what you know is right. either way I think this endgame was the perfect end to my narrative for this series. Steph Vee praise be
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Post by Coach on Nov 1, 2015 23:56:49 GMT
If you guys don't want to answer the literature question you don't have to, I just pretty much included it for funsies, lol.
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
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Post by Steph on Nov 2, 2015 0:05:31 GMT
coach - this cute Steven universe picture book I saw at Walmart the other day
Ian - crime and punishment
Brandon - hero by perry Moore
Sierra dawn - I'm a new big sister!
matty - 5: a novel
Joaquin - hoot
Alec - much ado about nothing
Fabio - of mice and men
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
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Post by Sierra on Nov 2, 2015 0:11:02 GMT
Hero/villain assignments Nobody here was really overly villainous game-wise this season, and I feel like it'd be dry to just make everyone a hero, so I want to do this from my point of view as a player because I think it's really hard to view this season objectively given the nature of it. Alec: from my PoV I guess you SHOULD be a villain since we were on opposite sides, but your genuine attempts to bridge the gap between us makes you a hero in my eyes. Coach: pretty much exactly the same deal as Alec, and I've never ever known you to be villainous. not to me anyway < 3 Ian: villain. shade thrown left right and center and I know he lied to me personally a lot, and this is MY SHOW OKAY Brandon: villain because the only time he ever talked to me beyond round 2 was to say "we're all voting you out <3". He also gave off this air of like condescension to me IDK. love u tho don Sierra: hero 100%, moreso than anyone else this season. Was an overall positive force in the season and got coldly screwed by an ally she was loyal to. Joaquin: okay like the funny thing is that Joaq gives me major Erik Cardona vibes. this is ironic considering. like Erik, he was obviously willing to make strategic moves to advance himself, but he was still a genuinely good guy and his inner hero came out in the end. Joaq would have an interesting arc, I think -- the hero who battles with his inner demons and eventually comes out on top in the end despite some questionable moments. Matty: Matty is a hero who faltered and fell to the dark side for a little while, but came back. Fabio: villain because obviously I'm the hero of my own story and he was my biggest opposition <3
My winner narrative okay like obviously the fact that I'm a returning winner would be a biiiiig part of it. If I were to win I don't think it'd be reasonable for me to get a massive edit all the way through, because that would make it too obvious that I was a central character and that I was probably going to make it far despite my threat status. I think the few moments where I was in danger of going home would be massively highlighted for the scare factor, but for a lot of the premerge (except for the Joaq/Carter double boot) I'd probably be edited as second fiddle to Matty and from more of a group perspective as an ally of Matty, Sierra and Joaq's.
With the four boots that went in my favour happening all in a row, I think more of the airtime would be focused on the opposing alliance scrambling to regain control as opposed to my victorious streak, but there'd be favourable foreshadowing there. I definitely didn't ever get cocky and I always expected everything to fall out of my control at any moment, and I think that'd show. I think I'd definitely become a very central character around SD's boot as my own prophecy fulfilled itself and I lost control of everything without much warning. The emotional overtones of the season would play a big part around here, especially with Joaq's betrayal and boot (culminating with his jury speech). I think I'd get a really triumphant/heroic arc over the next few rounds, losing my closest allies all in a row but still pushing on through and then having the tie forced for me at F4 despite my constant perceived target throughout the game.
Overall, I think I'd get a positive CPP type edit as a winner with a kind of against-the-odds scrappy sorta vibe. That's what I'd HOPE for anyway okay
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Brandon
Jury
John's Second Favorite
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Post by Brandon on Nov 2, 2015 0:13:31 GMT
@ Nay, 100% right about me @ Sierra, lu2
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
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Post by Sierra on Nov 2, 2015 0:41:58 GMT
literature! I hope quotes are okay because I love quotes
Alec - The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Coach - Let us be grateful to the people who make us happy; they are the charming gardeners who make our souls blossom. ― Marcel Proust
Ian - The Catcher in the Rye because he reminds me of Holden Caulfield and I'm not even joking
Brandon - The truth may not set you free, but used carefully, it can confuse the hell out of your enemies. ― Laurell K. Hamilton, Micah
SD - There is nothing I would not do for those who are really my friends. I have no notion of loving people by halves, it is not my nature. ― Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey
Joaq - There are days you wake up thinking you can juggle the world between your fingers, and other days you wake up feeling the air around you intoxicates you to a point where you can no longer leave the premises of your bed. The nights in between, you shuffle between being a warrior and a slave; wondering whether you want to lose yourself to win the world, or lose the world to win yourself. - Mohamed Kassem
Matty - Romeo and Juliet ok
Fabio - You will face your greatest opposition when you are closest to your biggest miracle. ― Shannon L. Alder
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