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Post by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 2:31:42 GMT
VIDEO jury speech coming soon!
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
Posts: 228
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Post by Steph on Oct 29, 2015 4:16:41 GMT
I luv u
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
Posts: 1,391
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Post by Sierra on Oct 29, 2015 6:24:21 GMT
same
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Post by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 13:09:06 GMT
Enjoy
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Post by Matty on Oct 29, 2015 13:38:37 GMT
OK ONE THING OF NOTE lol
I don't think there was any chance in hell I could cast doubt in being aligned with Sierra all game, and I wasn't going to lie to you about it. I never tried hiding it and I didn't think there was any point in doing so, just like how I didn't think there would have been any point in you hiding that you were with JT or Alec. It was just a sorta known/accepted fact and in AS games that's actually fine imo.
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
Posts: 1,391
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Post by Sierra on Oct 29, 2015 13:48:22 GMT
omg that was equal parts epic and adorable thank you so much
I'm taking notes while I watch this so I don't forget anything I want to say. 1. The pregame stuff -- I was not lying to you at all when I said I did not want the game to proceed in that way, but I think we can agree that a lot of our hands were forced in that sense. I got the impression that anyone who tried to shake anything up would have essentially been walking the plank. You were the person I trusted the most from the "other side" and I would have loved for the Weeknd Warriors to be a real thing. MAYBE ONE DAY. 2. Luck -- I addressed the pre-merge format thing in Fabio's thread -- a lot of big players benefited from the one-tribe structure of the pre-merge, not just me. I also still had to actually compete in immunity challenges and win to ensure my safety, and I went hard to keep myself safe from the very first day when I pretty much carried my team back from a sure loss in the treasure grab challenge. I also think moments of "luck" I had were pretty effectively balanced out by, like you said, events such as Carter and Joaq leaving because Fabio made a mistake in the challenge unbeknownst to me and it caused me to misjudge who would be at which tribal.
Triumphant moments in the game that were based on my own skillset rather than luck - Winning that first IC for my team was pretty key. I very well could've been first boot otherwise. - ...pretty much all of my immunity wins, especially the ones that got me and my allies sent to TT. - Securing SD's loyalty and keeping my alliance with her mostly under wraps so that it would continue to be useful. - Taking part in Alec's blindside and getting rid of a power player. - Never being in any real danger even when I was not immune thanks to my social connections, even though I was constantly toted as a massive target.
The one lucky thing that would have seen me sent out of the game if it had happened any other way Tough call, but I have to say that if Cochran had come back in instead of Steph, I almost definitely wouldn't be here right now. Cheers Brandon.
I also just want to reiterate that the nature of this game put people like Na'Onka, who had no preconceived allegiances, in a much better place to navigate than people like me and Fabio who were essentially locked into pre-games whether we liked it or not. The landscape of this season was actually kinda cruel for people coming in with widely-known past relationships. We were forced to stick to them whether we wanted to or not, or essentially risk being instabooted for defecting. For the people who were perceived as being in pre-games by the cast at large, it just wasn't safe to turn away from the allies you were being essentially forcibly grouped with. I think this is a really important factor to consider.
What did I think about your game this season? I think you did great, no BS, especially comparatively speaking. I remember in my pre-game assessment of you I noted that you only needed to get 15th place to make like a perfect streak of TSG placements from I think 13th - 17th, but also said that I had no intention of letting that happen. It turned out you didn't need my help at all, because you trucked on on your own merit. I really appreciated your social outreach with me and that alone made me want to keep you for as long as possible. I'm sure others felt the same way. Sadly the nature of the game stopped me from seeing who was influencing what on the "other side", but I'm fairly confident that you did well for yourself individually and as a member of your wider alliance. From my point of view, the one thing that might have got you further was building stronger social relationships with some other key players in the game. While I was more than willing to defend you and push other targets over you, other people did not feel the same way about you because they had much stronger relationships with your allies. Overall, though, I was impressed.
If I could cancel a juror's vote, I'd cancel Brandon's, because everyone expects him to vote for Steph, and my name is not Steph. I'm not sure where everyone else's votes are heading, so I'd rather not take a stab in the dark and wound a potential Sierra voter when I could um. Idk. Stab in the light instead.
I'll do the comparison question, hero/villain assignments and narrative question tomorrow. This was a gr8 procrastination tool for the last little while though < 3
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
Posts: 228
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Post by Steph on Oct 29, 2015 14:28:29 GMT
I'll answer the rest later but YAS @ your Ian hate <3
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Brandon
Jury
John's Second Favorite
Posts: 121
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Post by Brandon on Oct 29, 2015 16:47:05 GMT
17 minute holy fuck frank can I get a shorter one with the highlights
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Post by Sierra Dawn on Oct 29, 2015 19:16:10 GMT
Frank, don't be bitter but I am not wonder anymore why you don't make jury in games.
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Post by Coach on Oct 29, 2015 20:29:25 GMT
Frank, don't be bitter but I am not wonder anymore why you don't make jury in games. It is what it is, lol
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Post by Na'Onka on Oct 30, 2015 2:04:14 GMT
When you came to me about how we needed each other in the game I thought it was a good moment, too. You were right that we were good options for each other and so I was definitely on board to see what we could do together. I will be honest and say that to cover my bases I did tell Fabs about us talking, but I wasn’t going to betray you. But the best conversation we had was by far the other one you mentioned after my grandmother passed away. Everyone that I discussed it with was nice and caring, but you were so genuinely compassionate. It made me see you in a completely new light, so thank you.
I would have considered a couple different ways of surviving that tribal council if I didn’t have immunity. I definitely would have made sure to PM both Brandon and Steph to connect with them about the vote sooner. Since I was safe, I just trusted Fabio’s word that Brandon would be good with the vote Sierra Dawn thing. If I had talked to those 2 sooner than like 15 minutes before the deadline (when Fabs wasn’t responding and we’d already agreed on SD) and realized that they were so deadest against it, even if meant potentially saving Brandon, then I would have been down to vote for Joaquin with them and I assume Fabio would have been cool too. That still only ties it though and peeps probably wouldn’t go to rocks for me, but maybe SD also wouldn’t have gone to rocks for Joaquin, especially since he had been talking about targeting her as a reactionary move, and caved sooner. Another thing I could have potentially done was just try to throw Brandon under the bus and make sure he was the target over me. I mean the strong connection he had with Steph and the power of their wonder twin randomness was a solid reason to keep me over him at that point, so maybe people would have agreed with that view.
I thought your game this season was good, much better than the others time I saw you play in the series. One thing I think you improved is you were much more willing to go with the flow. From my understanding in past seasons you tended to strongly push your own agenda and it either alienated people or got back to the wrong person. Case and point that you improved with this is when you did bring me up as an option for the blind tribal. No one told me that you were like dead set ‘Nay’s got to go’, just that you threw it out there but it wasn’t happening so don’t worry. If I had heard you were seriously pushing it or whatever then it would have been hard for me to look past later, I think. Another thing I think you did well was keep up social chat in the whole tribe chat and have a positive presence when there was at times a lot of complaining. Also, I always assumed that at least one of Ian or I, if not both of us, would be cut before you if the Warriors Clan maintained control so you were well positioned within our overall alliance. The only significant flaw I can pick out about your game is that I think you intended to play a really loyal game and it likely would have landed you in the endgame with people you couldn’t differentiate yourself from and would have had a difficult time beating.
If I was going to cancel anyone’s jury vote it would be Matty’s vote. Him and Sierra are bffs so I’d assume she understandably has his vote locked down as I’d vote for my bff and expect them to do the same for me.
Will circle back for literature comparisons.
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Brandon
Jury
John's Second Favorite
Posts: 121
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Post by Brandon on Oct 30, 2015 17:01:10 GMT
B vid Franku, the music swelling at some parts was more distracting than anything else but I enjoyed it besides that.
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
Posts: 228
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Post by Steph on Oct 30, 2015 17:58:21 GMT
hey guys I'll be answering the rest of my questions today. busy week for me
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
Posts: 228
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Post by Steph on Oct 30, 2015 20:07:49 GMT
If I could cancel a vote I would cancel Fabio's. Reason being is I don't want to give a certain someone the satisfaction of me choosing him, and Fabio is without a doubt not voting me. He's justifiably mad at me for sending him to 4th place (in two games within a week of each other oops!) so I think that's a solid choice for me to eliminate.
I thought you did super well this season, you had me wanting to work with you the round you voted me out and you had me convinced I was safe with you until Brandon told me I was going, and even then I wasn't really mad at you for it. It probably was a smart move considering I had just told you I wanted to vote out the Twisteds, which probably seemed like a flimsy statement to try and get on your good side even tho I was genuine. I think if you hadn't been made into the figurehead of sorts in the early game, you could have lasted a lot longer, but you at least made jury this time which obviously you should be proud of.
Alec - I don't necessarily know if he was either hero or villain. He seemed more like a neutral force all season? Of course I spoke to him once so who am I to judge his character this season, but he never seemed negative or positive when people mentioned him Coach - Hero. I say this because, while you did lie and blindside people, you were super loyal to your allies and did whatever you could tp protect them, which is obviously heroic. Your call out of season witch Ian also boosted your heroism lol. Brandon - Villain? I don't know. I think most people in this game weren't really one or the other, but if I have to choose for Brandon he's a villain because he turned on his alliance and was involved in some fuckery that wasn't like.. loyal? Idk man. I love Donovan. Ian - This one is obvious. Huge villain. Definitely a more offensive and intentionally hurtful version of Abi Maria. Sierra Dawn - Hero! I may be biased in this, but SD was the light of this game for me. Until her elimination I was pretttttty much playing for her to win, and once she left I wanted to avenge her. She was sweet and kind and never mean to me at all. I know some others have issues with her, but I don't have a single one. Joaquin - Villain. He was a big schemer in the late game, which ultimately brought about his downfall. He had his own allies complaining to me about him and how dumb he was being and selfish etc etc, and when your own allies are mad at you you can't be a hero. Matty - Hero. While he was a schemer too, he is just too damn nice and personable to be a villain. All three games I have played with him he has gotten fifth place and has been universally liked. Fabio - Like Alec I am struggling to find an answer for Fabio. He had heroic tendencies and villainous tendencies. He was loyal, but he flipped, but he was nice, but he could be a snarky ass too. He's a very mixed player I feel.
Still need to do literature
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Post by Matty on Oct 30, 2015 20:58:53 GMT
Matty - All three games I have played with him he has gotten fifth place No offense, but I think I need to stop playing in games with you lol.
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