Fabio First

[Fabio]

Hi my three favorite people. This is my first time being on a TSG jury LOL, I am so nervous.

But anyway, I just have some individualized statements for the three of you and some questions I'd like you to respond to. Then there's a general question at the end. Good luck ladies!


Sierra

Hi love. It’s no secret that you were the bad ass bitch that needed to be beat, and you managed to make it to the end. Good job.

My issue with your game is that I honestly think the twists, and honestly just blind luck, benefited you a lot more than they benefited Nay. The entire format of the premerge 100% benefitted you in this game. With no set tribes, you were able to immunity whore your way to jury. And even when you were vulnerable at the two TCs where JT and Cochran left, you still lucked out because you had a twisted majority on your tribe. Then the outcast twists came, which also hugely benefitted you because you got two of your allies back. From then on, you really just kind of coasted. You had two die hard friends (Joaq, Matty) who were willing to fucking jump on the sword for you in order to keep you in the game. That’s something else that none of the rest of us really had.

Do you acknowledge that luck was a huge factor for you in here? Do you think that you had to do a lot more outmaneuvering to keep yourself in the game than Nay?

Nay

Love you girl <3 like I said before the FIC, I just wanted one of us to make it to finale and win if both of us couldn’t. That said, you do not have a guaranteed shot at my vote.

You definitely played a less flashy game than Sierra. Sierra managed to take all the credit (or all the blame, in some cases) for the major votes of the merge. You definitely seemed like you were in the background at some points. I know from working closely with you that you did a lot more than one might think, but I think others on the jury do not know that. You obviously played a great game, because as our alliance crumbled in the beginning of the merge, you still managed to get all the way to F3.

What did you do that the jury might not be aware of? What moves did you have to make to escape the toppling of the Warriors Clan?

Also, this is a bit of a more personal question, but if the Warriors Clan had stayed in power throughout the merge, what would you have done? Would you have eventually flipped on us, or would you have stayed true? If we weren’t the last two of the warriors clan remaining, would you have wanted to go to the end with me?

And plz be honest about that, I really don’t care if you were planning on cutting me at some point.

Steph

I honestly don’t think you have a huge chance of getting any votes here. What can I say? You’re up against the two strongest competitors in the game. And while you did do some things under the radar, I’m not sure they’re going to shine up against your competitors.

Now the thing is, before the F4, I really wanted to give you my vote if I was in jury and you were in finale. If you had just told me that I was going home, I probably would be a lot more amicable to considering voting for you. But instead you just lied to me and told me that you were keeping me for no good reason. Why did you do that? Did you have a real strategic reason(did you have a real reason for lying other than “for the lols”?)

Were you ever interested in winning the game? Or were you just content to play for Sierra?


for u three


I ask this q every time I'm on jury so sorry if you ever have to answer it again somewhere else <3 I want you to compare each juror to a GoT character. If you haven't seen GoT, compare each juror to a survivor player or maybe from characters from some other TV show you like.


Thanks gl

[Brandon]

suck a dick u beat me by 3 minutes and undermined my whole shit

[Fabio]

you would've undermined my shit

how could I say "fabio first" if I wasn't first!!!

[Steph]

hey ur gay <3

I don't plan on getting any votes. I didn't even deserve to make jury lmao but here I am. I was never playing for Sierra to win.. I literally said in my opening statement I wanted to turn on her early on but no one believed me

my first confessional post is complaining about keri ignoring my texts but messaging me when she needed me for this game and I was fed up with it. but nobody trusted me! and then she voted me back in so I kinda was indebted to her. of course she did vote me in the tie round so I should've repaid her with voting her out but eh!

also I don't think there's really a reason for me to answer your GOT question when I 1.) don't watch it and 2.) won't be getting your vote anyway

love u tho <3

[Na'Onka]

Love you too, babe. Miss you already.


Thank you for the compliments. I think the jury likely underestimates how key I was in various votes. As I explained in my opening statement, I was instrumental during the Rey vote. I could have easily put Coach and/or JT above Joaq and Karter on my boot list during the blind tribal council, which would have changed the outcome at the tribal I was at sending JT out over Karter. But no one from that side really approached me with anything significant or convincing. Even though I ended up voting Cochran over Steph to return, I was being courted into voting Coach at the final 12. People from the Twisted side of things were pushing me to flip, while people from the Warriors side were also pressuring me above the benefits of not doing so. Then at the final 11 a similar scenario happens. Even though I had just voted opposite that side after leading people to believe I was with them, I was again being courted to vote Coach. In the final six revote, if anyone was changing their vote (after Joaquin made it clear he wasn’t going to) I think it was going to be me, so that was another vote where I held power.


I think that speaks largely to what I had to do to survive the Warrior pagonging; I made connections outside the alliance and myself look appealing to an array of people. That’s especially evident given that I survived the final 7 tribal council, even though I don’t think it was necessarily best for people’s games. I had formed a really strong, genuine bond with Sierra and I think that is what helped push her to keep me. Joaquin and I weren’t especially close, but I had just endeared him to me by taking him to the trove the previous round and worked on instilling the idea that we were mutually each other’s best shot at winning the game & should keep each other around.


To be completely honest, my mindset at the merge was that if the Warriors Clan went to the final 6 together then I’d be one of the odd people out. In my mind I saw you, Brandon, and Alec controlling the game at the point and ending up as the final 6 in most scenarios. My perception of that may be incorrect, but I felt like that because no one ever talked in-depth or long-term game with me. I get that the unpredictable pre-merge made it difficult to project, but I knew more talk had to be happening than I was privy to. At the final 11 Ian eventually mentioned a core of you, him, Alec, and I, but no one else ever mentioned it lol and I just did not see it coming to fruition.


However, with that mind, I did have intentions of going as far as possible with you. I always felt like I could trust you and that you were someone who could potentially value me over others they knew before. In my ideal plans, I would have flipped early on to take out Alec. Nothing personal because I got along well with Alec, but I recognized him as the biggest threat at the merge and I thought you and Brandon would forgive and trust me again more easily. After that, if the opportunity and right circumstances presented itself, I definitely would have considered voting out either Brandon or Coach to ensure that I wasn’t shut out at 4 or 5 still. Hope that covered things  

[Na'Onka]

And to clarify, I've never seen GOT, so do you want me to do another show? I can use wikipedia or some shit to compare people to though or I'll do another show (American Horror Story? Lost?) if that won't be looked down on.

[Steph]

I VOTE LOST

[Ian]

Oct 27, 2015 22:34:41 GMT Na'Onka said:

People from the Twisted side of things were pushing me to flip

hahahhahaahaha get it

[Fabio]

Yeah do lost nay <3

[Sierra]

hi bby. I still mourn the power duo we could have been.

Do you acknowledge that luck was a huge factor for you in here? 
Like I mentioned in my OS, luck was definitely a big factor for me in this game, but I don't think it was the overarching theme of my game or anything. Let me address your statement part by part.

The entire format of the premerge 100% benefitted you in this game. With no set tribes, you were able to immunity whore your way to jury. And even when you were vulnerable at the two TCs where JT and Cochran left, you still lucked out because you had a twisted majority on your tribe.
Did I benefit from the one-tribe format? Totally. The teams being shaken up every round prevented me from getting stuck for longer than a round with a majority who were out for my blood. HOWEVER, I think that the one-tribe format probably benefited you and at least a few others too (people like Matty, Joaquin, Alec and Brandon, namely, who weren't necessarily seen as the "figureheads" of the two pre-game factions, but all had strong known attachments to one of the two of us). If any of us had been put on a tribe where the majority was the other "pregame" + their added numbers, we likely would've been screwed. I also don't think that winning that many immunity challenges is a luck-based achievement. Give me some credit plz :"""(

Then the outcast twists came, which also hugely benefited you because you got two of your allies back.
The outcast twist looked good for me and it should have made the game a lot easier, but the momentum still swung between the two "sides" of the game round by round like a very fucking heavy pendulum even after I should have had majority. Steph was flaky and hard to get to commit to anything, and I could never tell what she actually wanted. I'll talk about Joaq in the next section.

You had two die hard friends (Joaq, Matty) who were willing to fucking jump on the sword for you in order to keep you in the game. That’s something else that none of the rest of us really had.

As much as I almost wish this were true, it's not.
Joaq screwed SD at 7 with a view to force me to sink with her. He would not listen to reason and his illogical argument re: why she "needed" to go made it clear that he was going to come after me ASAP, likely with your help. Matty also went along with this despite our alliance with SD and in the same breath told me he was heavily considering getting rid of me before the end, which left me the most alone I'd been all game. In the space of a round, my closest alliance (me-Sierra-Matty) had been dismantled from the inside out, and Matty and (more obviously) Joaq had made it clear that they had seemingly no intention of sticking with me until the end. This was not a fun realisation, especially given the nature of this particular game. I was, as per usual, 100% committed to sticking with Chris, but he kind of backed out on me and it just felt really tragic to me lol. The point is, though, no one was falling on any swords for me. Trust me on that.

Do you think that you had to do a lot more outmaneuvering to keep yourself in the game than Nay?
A lot more? Idk. Just as much or slightly more? Yes.

Like, hear me out. Nay and I were kind of at opposite ends of the spectrum with regards to our positions in the game. The theme of this season has quite obviously been pre-game vs pre-game, no matter how much I (and I'm sure some others) might have wanted it not to play out that way. People might argue that coming into All Stars games with no real pre-game connections is a death knell, but when the cast size is this reasonable and there are already pre-formed groups that are being pitted against each other, I'd say it's more of an advantage than anything else. As long as you have a decent social game, people will take an interest in you and want to keep you around because they know they'll likely need you as a number, especially if the "sides" are roughly equal otherwise. Nay is one of my favourite people in this game even though she ended up siding against me, and I think she probably had a safety advantage over the more prominent figures in your alliance because she was not actually a main character in your Warriors Clan story -- she was a number that you seemed to have, but she was a lot less visible than the rest of you, and therefore didn't appear as an overt threat to me/us. Steph is probably her closest equivalent on my "side" of the game, although Steph's arc is a little different. In the end, we were all pretty much at each other's throats for the whole game, which I think allowed Nay to slip under the radar a little. In a game full of people who are actively competing against each other, loose numbers aren't generally big targets. I think Nay's "outmaneuvering" was just making the players in the game enjoy her regardless of her allegiance while continuing to vote with the side she chose, which is perfectly valid, but I don't think it means that she played the game better than I did. 

[Steph]

yeah i've decided i'm just not gonna waste my time doing this question for you, i'm sure you know why, so good luck sierra/nay on his vote xo

[Na'Onka]

Oh yah uhhh spoilers ahead I guess? 

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Joaquin reminds me of Hurley because both were somewhat in the background at the beginning. Hurley got a couple centric episodes here and there, but he was more-so always playing the sidekick role to someone else. I think it was the perception that Joaq played the sidekick role to Matty and Sierra. Similarly to Hurley, Joaquin was definitely a fun background character and I liked chatting with him when we did. Anyone who watched Lost knows that Hurley became extremely important in at least the final 2 seasons of the show. Joaq was really important to the end game here. I think if he'd stuck to his guns and voted Matty in the revote he likely would have made final 3, just like how Hurley was endgame for Lost. 

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I had a hard time pinning Brandon done, but I think Claire does it justice. Opposite of Hurley, Claire was super important in the early stages of lost. I mean the bitch was pregnant on an island and we later learned she was the first preggo to not die on the island in forever. Brandon was heavily targeted early on in the game, but almost always came out on top. I think it was around mid season 4 that Claire just totally disappeared and they had the bullshit lost in the jungle story. Brandon admitted that he went basically invis as the game progressed. The way Brandon went out, telling me he was down to vote Sierra Dawn and then just not, felt like a rushed and unjustified end to his (our?) story line. The did the same thing to Claire with the "OMG she's cray, but oh wait Kate's gonna help her!1" thing in the final season.

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Alec is definitely Eko in my mind. The show portrayed Eko as a character that was wise and ahead of the majority of other characters. That's how I saw Alec in the game; strategic and thinking about the big picture. Both times I watched Lost the people I was watching it with loved Eko. Alec was a popular topic of discussion in the Tuvalu PW area so he prob was here again. Something that really sold me on the comparison was how Eko was built up to be a huge character, but died maybe a season and a half after his introduction. He was killed before his story line was fulfilled, which I think is akin to going out because of a lifesaver and three votes.  

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Ian and Sawyer were both passionate. I got along well with Ian in the game and I enjoyed Sawyer as a character (especially the second time viewing), even though both seemed to have a polarizing effect on people. A dimension of Sawyer's character was (at first) he was all about self-preservation. Ian putting a vote on Coach instead of Sierra was an attempt at self-preservation. Sawyer's self-preservation instincts alienated him from the group, while Ian's instincts contributed to his boot. Plus they are both blonde and seeing their pics next to each other, they kinda look similar so definitely an accurate match.

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This was one of the more immediate connections that I made. Charlie had a stigma at first because he was a drug addict and washed up music star. Coach is neither of those things to my knowledge, but I think given his perpetual past pre-jury placements (sorry for alliteration Brandon) that was a stigma coming into an All Star game. When Charlie's death finally came it had already been predicted and stopped by Desmond on several occasions, so he was okay with it. Since he had made the jury and earned his highest placement yet, I think Coach left the game in an accepting way similar to the way Charlie died. When Charlie died it really was a sacrifice for everyone else. Coach left the game during a double tribal where we all still only had one vote. Since he was a target in the past, he must have known he was in danger, but he stuck with our alliance.

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Ben was the leader of The Others and I always saw Matty as the real leader of the Twisted alliance. I know most people saw Sierra in that light, but I personally viewed her as more of a figurehead and Matty as the threat to winning. I wanted to take him out during the tribal the Tom left because of that, but my allies told me 'it was too soon to start a war with the twisted crew'. Ben was probably the most strategic person on the show and always manipulating those around him. Matty was definitely one of the more strategic people here. 

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Sierra Dawn reminds me of Juliet because both were undercover boss bitches. Juliet stepped up whenever, wherever, and however she needed to. I think the same can be said about SD and I saw her as someone really dedicated to the game. The main crew were (understandably) very weary of her after she switched from #teamothers. For a lot of viewers and even some of the characters at times, the others stigma stuck with Juliet. Sierra Dawn was in no way a flip flopper, but the constant weariness surrounding Juliet reminds me of how Sierra Dawn was the target of the our crew for what seemed like forever at the merge. I think SD has a reputation of being an emotional player, but in this game I found her to be much more calm. Juliet was notoriously low stressed, bordering on sociopath. 

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Fabio became my absolute best friend in the game and Sayid is far and above my favorite character<3. Both were silent and deadly assassins. Sayid always had a plan and could get himself (and others) out of anything (LIKE THAT TIME HE SNAPPED THE DUDES NECK WITH HIS LEGS WHILE TIED UP?!). You just knew he'd go far. It makes me think of how Fabs name was never coming up and he seemed to be perfectly positioned. Sayid was 100% endgame material, but those fuckers killed him off on the sub in the penultimate episode. Fabio got so close to making the finals for second time, but lost the fire making challenge. 

[Na'Onka]

Also, you didn't ask for them, but..

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[Steph]

spoilers but did you have to make SD and Ian endgame lovers like lmao! also how am I miles ? just bc I'm a survivor who didn't really matter much?

[Na'Onka]

I feel like Miles' role on the show was really only to serve as comedic relief because Hurley had to slowly be developed into a more serious character. You were the comedic relief here too more than any thing else. I also love Miles for really no reason at all and felt the same way about you when we'd have one of our random chats. Plus Miles could talk to the dead and you were in the prejury for a little bit, so that's similar.