Ian
Jury
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Post by Ian on Oct 30, 2015 21:07:01 GMT
You know you've lost the fight when the friggin host is liking posts pointing out how bad you've lost. I never lose bruh. I honestly believe people here and in ORGs in general are way too soft and I'm shedding light on how cold this world can be. If people can't take a beating (admittedly Steph has been able to), then go do something where you would never be exposed to such harshness. But I don't say shit without reason or justification. I've never said a bad word to you, for example, because you've never done anything obnoxious to me, up till that comment of yours in my thread. |
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Ian
Jury
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Post by Ian on Oct 30, 2015 21:08:36 GMT
If anyone believes that a person working as a waiter and doing nothing else but pouting all day is contributing a lot to society, they are sorely mistaken. I mean, working to pay yourself through college is like, the American dream right? *Alec flees before the landmine detonates* True, but that doesn't mean you're contributing a lot to society lol. you may be contributing a lot to your own path, but to society? nah. |
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Post by Sierra Dawn on Oct 31, 2015 20:13:37 GMT
Well, You didnt messenage me. I knew from start you're Matt from BB we played and I still was talking to you. When you find out who I am then you stopped talk to me.
Don't try with Queen, Kiss my knees becuause you can't tell me what to do if you don't try contact me. You should be speechless that you are still allowed talk to me.
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Ian
Jury
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Post by Ian on Oct 31, 2015 23:13:58 GMT
Well, You didnt messenage me. I knew from start you're Matt from BB we played and I still was talking to you. When you find out who I am then you stopped talk to me. Don't try with Queen, Kiss my knees becuause you can't tell me what to do if you don't try contact me. You should be speechless that you are still allowed talk to me. Lol did you really know from the start? Because that's not what I heard from Cochran, Alec, and Fabio... I knew you were GinaMarie from the very beginning SD... anyone with a brain would recognize the way you chat with people... and all three of Cochran, Fabio, and Alec can attest to the fact that I knew who you were even before this game ever began, and so I DID talk to you even though I knew. Don't try and talk back to me if you don't have proof. It was only around the time when Cochran/Alec/Fabio all told me that you found out who I was (aka NOT the start of the game), just THEN did you stop talking to me. So either it was a huge coincidence, or you are trying to lie to cover up your own BS, or they lied to me (which, then, give credit to them). |
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Sierra
Sole Survivor
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Post by Sierra on Nov 1, 2015 6:34:07 GMT
I want to know from you what you think you did on a strategic level (any move, any lie, etc) that helped you get to the final 3, because it seems as though you are only here because of sheer luck and the efforts of others and not your own.
I don't wanna sound snappy but like, the number of times luck has been mentioned in reference to my game during this FTC is getting a little ridiculous. I've stated multiple times that luck did benefit me at multiple points throughout the game, but if you honestly believe that arguably the most visible player of the season can make it to the end based on luck alone, I don't know what to tell you. To make it extra clear, I'd like to make a list of things that are not "luck".
- Winning multiple immunity challenges that were not even slightly luck-based.
- Forming and maintaining relationships with people that made them want to keep me, even when it was against their better judgement or interests.
- People from the opposing alliance making stupid decisions that benefited me.
- My allies factoring me into their game decisions and making moves to benefit me because they wanted me around. This is a clear reflection of my social game.
- Only ever receiving votes at like, two tribals all game, despite the fact that I had a gargantuan target on my back.
- Losing two of my closest allies very early on because of a terrible miscalculation and having to revise my entire gameplan on the fly.
- Always doing what was best for myself and my game even while I was immune. If you're safe often, it's easy to get complacent. There's a difference between winning a lot/being lucky and just letting things proceed and winning a lot/being lucky and taking advantage of it.
In which tribal councils did you think you were the most (or one of the most) influential, post–twist?
Every vote went my way post-twist except for the SD and Matty votes. I had at least some influence every round and always OK'd the final decisions. If you want me to claim absolute credit for any BigMoves™, I probably can't, but in a season where the biggest move was probably Joaq flipping on us and trying to blindside Matty (which ended tragically anyway), I'm strangely OK with that. I was already a super visible player. Most people in this season know not only my game, but me on at least a vaguely personal level. I was not here to start planning massive blindsides and whatever else when I was kind of backed into a corner all game (much like a lot of other people in this cast who came in with pre-existing relationships). Despite being blindsided by the losses of Carter, Joaq and Courtney, 4 of the Warriors alliance still went out in a row in the post-twist phase, and that was due in huge part to my influence. I guess if you want a direct answer, I'd say every boot from Alec through Brandon. My 3 closest allies also left one after the other following that, and I still made it to the end against all odds. If you're of the opinion that I floated through this game or that I don't have a big enough strategic resume to deserve your vote, that's alright. My game this season was a lot less flashy than it was in Luanda, but I did my best with what I had (which at times really wasn't much at all), and I think my game was pretty fucking good, all things considered.
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Ian
Jury
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Post by Ian on Nov 1, 2015 6:49:55 GMT
Thanks Sierra! By no means did I think you floated through this game. You definitely had to have played a great game or at least done something right in order to have made it to the finals back to back, I just wanted to hear what your response would be. Congrats again
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Steph
3rd Place
prob john's least fav but at least i'm not ian amirite??
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Post by Steph on Nov 1, 2015 15:59:35 GMT
vote for me for putting up with your shit since your elimination xoxo gossip steph
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Post by Na'Onka on Nov 1, 2015 16:44:57 GMT
Nay: Had I stayed in this game over Sierra or whoever I was up against, do you think your gameplay or strategy would have panned out differently? I really did want to flip and vote out the Warriors clan and go with someone like you and Joaq to the end. Hypothetically, would you have gone that route?
I think my game definitely could have gone differently, if you stayed. I felt like I could trust you and then given how much information about your game you were telling me during that round, it solidified that trust I had for you. And tbch I did feel like you would be a more manageable opponent for me at the end, so I would have stayed loyal to you. Given that the next round would have been 4 warriors clan and 4 twisted crew members, it's really difficult to say how exactly things would have played out though. Personally, I would have liked to play defensively and taken out another person from the Twisted side of things before voting out Brandon or Fabio (Brandon would have been my choice since I trusted Fabs more and the combined wonder twin powers of Steph/Brandon would have been another contributing factor there). So maybe Joaq would have been game to flip at that point, but I also get the impression that he's also a player who likes to play defensively and getting him to vote for a twisted crew member probably would have been a very tough sell. So it probably would have been somewhat of a stalemate there and I really can't predict how things would have went down. Ideally for me though, the final 5 would have gone on to look like some combination of me, you, Fabio, Joaquin, and one of Steph/Sierra Dawn. In another answer I said I would have always stuck loyal to Fabio (and given how the game played out, I would have), but if we didn't watch our alliance get completely decimated together and I (with you) voted off Brandon at some point, we probably would have finished off the game considerably less inseparable than we were. So in this scenario I would have been more likely to cut him in one of those final rounds and go to the end with say you and Joaquin.
Sorry I can't give you a more detailed or specific answer about how things would have played out, but hopefully that gave you what you needed.
To Sierra and Nay: In which tribal councils did you think you were the most (or one of the most) influential, post–twist?
I assume that this means post-merge? Like it's been discussed, I was seemingly the person who both sides were counting on at both the final 12 and 11 tribal councils. Then at the final 7 the strategic positioning I had been previously working towards influenced my ability to stay safe there. I pushed rocks at the final six so again I think it would be fair to call me one of the key people there.
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